Apologies all for being slow on the notes, now from 2 tuesdays ago... i've had a pretty wild convergence of meetings and deadlines on multiple projects leading to working long days and last weekend too... but here you go alas

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Next week (now three nights ago, and I wasn't there) we may have lap tops and a couple people attending from afar via Skype. D notes this is approriate for Lost Coin, as it is of our time, and appropriate for a coming of age of mind. Quotes William Gibson,"The future has already arrived. It's just not evenly distributed yet."

D states that computer communication is not virtual. Gives example that someone asking for a divorce over the phone or email is just as real as if it were in person. Being stuck and grumpy is just being old. A youth listening to headphones may appear to not be in touch, but they may be very in touch with the music. D want us to wrap our minds around a different sense of reality. Nowadays teens have choice that they may not have had in different times, as do we.

Unless we want to hit or have sex with others we do not need to be with them physically. D states that his internet conversations via webcam with european students are just as real as being with a student in the same physical space. He want us to be able to continue to explore, to be worldwide, to be in touch with anyone and able to do anything.

One can now rent time with powerful telescopes and view through them over the web. One can now join with underwater explorers.

Coming back to mind, if we are being grumpy about this, what are we doing? This instrument can connect us to anything. Why remain in the parking lot with a broken down chevy.

Someone asks, what if all technology breaks down? Another asks what about the whole experience?

Now we have options. It is not either/or. Discussions via email or facebook are different than a live meeting, but we are not comparing apples to apples. If someone is being rude, you can switch off the technology. We are just not used to it. D asks us to compare as if through the eyes of youth, and seeing something that old people cannot understand.

Patrica mentions that children respond well to healing practices that are given online video conference. This is very different than not acepting something because we pre-reject it. Also, people that don't accept such things have trouble accepting people and experiences in general. 

Someone asks, what about kids with attention deficit disorder being tied to technology? D states there is no real evidence of this, and that kids are actually getting smarter. D's son did what he liked, was an online gamer, but is now doing what he likes, is happy and successful. Technology allows minds to develop faster. We can't blame obesity on an inanimate object.

Experience of nature is raised. Which brings up a discussion of whether anyone (parents implied) can oppose their values upon another. Can we be so sure about our own values that we can force them upon another? How is it even possible to do this? Would you rahter be open to change, to being open to another doing what they want or risking relationship rift and forcing something?

We need to rething values and rightness. We need to look at our prejudices. Maybe watching more tv would be better for nature.

Prejudices from movie 'Milk' mentioned, in relationship to forcing values upon people/children.

Choice theory mentioned.

Headphones in at dinner mentioned. D suggests in time this person may open up if trusted and not forced.

Letting son experiment with marijuana mentioned, and in relationship to hypocrisy of a parent who consumes marijuana, or alcohol.

A lot of these prejudices are generational, cultural.

D mentions that 'force rebounds'. We need to keep looking at our negative emotions.

D reads from the Tao Te Ching. (I am too slow to get the quote) ... implying that not knowing and being different allows for a direct connection with 'the great mother' or reality/experience.

Rightness is stuckness. Rightness is stopping immediately after trying something once (if at all). 

D mentions how differently an older generation would see tattoos vs younger folk today. People should be able to like different things and all exist together.

Jona mentions that there has to be exceptions to tolerance in society, and D points out that we cannot let the extremes cloud the understanding of this discussion. People who rape and murder are crazy, need treatment... thinks that violence in children more likely tied to coercive parenting than say violence of tv, movies, gaming.

Consider guidance vs force. Force is violent. Do we believe in rejection, forcing, denying next generation? Do we know enought to regulate our children's culture? Would you risk your child's life and rights base upon your preconditioned ideas?

Look at your own negative emotions. D suggests we sound like republicans tonight, that sarah palin would be proud. 

Laughter.

We never have to me more right and not trust. Be open to be able to trust, to be best help and inspiration. Think along the lines of, "Hey I could show you something different / better than tv... " Lean towards the gentle, not being right. Have trust in what other like, what/who they are. Choose to not be right.
